Do wind turbines require electricity to function?

[Bootleg11]

I’ve never heard of anybody in KS being even allowed to farm close enough to the solar panels to have any shading effect. Also not sure what they would grow in KS that requires partial shade since they get so much sun.


In KS it’s mostly Wind because you can run cattle or farm outside of the base perimeter of the turbine. Also, because it’s so damn windy the solar panels can get the shit beat out of them unless they are placed in specific locations.



What really has slowed down solar is the materials to build almost exclusively come from China. Supply issues have greatly limited mass production.


Potential is there if the supply and price point can ever get to a good spot.

Yeah pretty sure all the easements/leases we’ve signed on solar didn’t allow for farming.

But I also have never heard it mineral owners getting paid for turbines being installed. That’s a new one to me. Interesting

 

[God is a Husker]

Yeah pretty sure all the easements/leases we’ve signed on solar didn’t allow for farming.

But I also have never heard it mineral owners getting paid for turbines being installed. That’s a new one to me. Interesting

Depends if there is anything of value.

Ex: ain’t pulling out 2 side dumps of gravel/sand from turbines put up in the flint hills or much of the Smokey hills (where the majority of turbines in the state are)


I’m sure you have driven through the area my client got paid from, it’s along hwy24 in eastern Thomas county almost to the Sheridan county line.

Like I said, it’s usually only a few hundred bucks but in high numbers it can add up. Especially if you didn’t have any input costs to get paid.

 

[Bootleg11]

Depends if there is anything of value.

Ex: ain’t pulling out 2 side dumps of gravel/sand from turbines put up in the flint hills or much of the Smokey hills (where the majority of turbines in the state are)


I’m sure you have driven through the area my client got paid from, it’s along hwy24 in eastern Thomas county almost to the Sheridan county line.

Like I said, it’s usually only a few hundred bucks but in high numbers it can add up. Especially if you didn’t have any input costs to get paid.

I’ve done wind easements in SW KS where minerals are very prevalent and the clients don’t even require mineral research.

For solar totally different. Have to pay and get a waiver from mineral owners as well. But wind it’s surface ownership only. Currently doing that in a courthouse in SW KS as I type this.

That’s very interesting to me.

 

[Adolph Coors]

Is your dad a lib or just in the dark about it?

he’s a lib. he just doesnt know it

 

[Huskerbuck85]

he’s a lib. he just doesnt know it

Don’t let him keep living that way. Tell him I worked for Black Hills Energy and the top executives who looove to make money hated the windmills. BHE has windmills bc they were forced to and they explained to us as was explained above. Motors, oil and way less efficient than coal. It’s just a political hack

 

[22*43*51]

....And the blades cannot be recycled, so they just get landfilled.

Where they will never compost.

 

[Woodrow F Call]

The point everyone should be getting here is there’s no such thing as “clean energy”

Despite what your 4th year philospophy professor from a liberal institution told you

I'm not sure people really understand the amount of gasoline, diesel, other oil, etc that it takes just to erect one of the ugly fucking turbines.

 

[Woodrow F Call]

I have a feeling @Woodrow F Call is gonna need a beer while reading this thread

I could already rip Richie Incognitos heart from his chest

 

[God is a Husker]

I’ve done wind easements in SW KS where minerals are very prevalent and the clients don’t even require mineral research.

For solar totally different. Have to pay and get a waiver from mineral owners as well. But wind it’s surface ownership only. Currently doing that in a courthouse in SW KS as I type this.

That’s very interesting to me.

Mineral owners either didn’t get notified or didn’t lawyer up. (Easier when surface and mineral is the same party.)



Which county are you in right now? I know an attorney in SW Kansas who used to be a cowboy and was a high school and small college ref. Shoutout @alt f4


His name is Dakota Lamb, which is maybe the best Cowboy name you could ever come up with. @Woodrow F Call @scotchfrost9697 @Mustangblood

 

[Bootleg11]

Mineral owners either didn’t get notified or didn’t lawyer up. (Easier when surface and mineral is the same party.)



Which county are you in right now? I know an attorney in SW Kansas who used to be a cowboy and was a high school and small college ref. Shoutout @alt f4


His name is Dakota Lamb, which is maybe the best Cowboy name you could ever come up with. @Woodrow F Call @scotchfrost9697 @Mustangblood

Never heard of him. And I’d rather not say sorry.

 

[God is a Husker]

Never heard of him. And I’d rather not say sorry.

Huge miss not responding with this gif

 

[Grits and Gravy]

That makes zero sense but I'm gonna take your guys word for it. They also kill massive amounts of birds or so I'm told.

The day I learned solar farms made birds burst into flames in the air was a really fun rabbit hole day. Pretty entertaining to watch.

Sounds even more dangerous than Randy Johnson.

 

[HuskerDocCo]

I say this as an employee of the #2 tractor and implement manufacturer on Earth (Red, Blue & Yellow, NOT Green), and the company is working on these things

you know Gary, I’ve put up with your bullshit for more turns around the moon then necessary .! Now you drop this whole shit bomb you aren’t a GREEN tractor man!? Here is what those colors mean -

Red = the color of your bank account

Blue = the black n blue eyes your wife gives you for not paying the bills

Yellow = the piss us farmers splooge on those micro machine quality “tractors”

 

[hothouse_corn]

you know Gary, I’ve put up with your bullshit for more turns around the moon then necessary .! Now you drop this whole shit bomb you aren’t a GREEN tractor man!? Here is what those colors mean -

Red = the color of your bank account

Blue = the black n blue eyes your wife gives you for not paying the bills

Yellow = the piss us farmers splooge on those micro machine quality “tractors”

Dammit Henry, green pigments are expensive while red pigments are cheap. (I'm not sure about the New Holland stuff. Who cares, unless you're growing high-value specialty fruits and vegetables). Also, my bank account is not communist red.

My company spends all our money on marketing and advertising, not paint pigments or research and development.

That said, in response to others @God is a Husker and @Bootleg11, I don't think many of the things I talked about are very applicable to most of Kansas. The "growing in shade of solar panels" thing is happening, but not with the same ownership models that are being offered in the midwest. Think Arizona and California, lower density solar with higher value crops shaded by solar panels. Lettuce, green beans, edamame, broccoli, cauliflower, etc. Very labor intensive and high value food crops rather than commodities.

The food companies are putting in the solar panels on land that they either lease or own, but use for growing food. I don't know how this would work in the great plains or prairie with current cropping systems.

 

[God is a Husker]

Dammit Henry, green pigments are expensive while red pigments are cheap. (I'm not sure about the New Holland stuff. Who cares, unless you're growing high-value specialty fruits and vegetables). Also, my bank account is not communist red.

My company spends all our money on marketing and advertising, not paint pigments or research and development.

That said, in response to others @God is a Husker and @Bootleg11, I don't think many of the things I talked about are very applicable to most of Kansas. The "growing in shade of solar panels" thing is happening, but not with the same ownership models that are being offered in the midwest. Think Arizona and California, lower density solar with higher value crops shaded by solar panels. Lettuce, green beans, edamame, broccoli, cauliflower, etc. Very labor intensive and high value food crops rather than commodities.

The food companies are putting in the solar panels on land that they either lease or own, but use for growing food. I don't know how this would work in the great plains or prairie with current cropping systems.

Also Cali and Arizona don’t get as damaging of wind and storms like Kansas does.


You spend millions developing a solar field and then Kansas has a normal day of 70 mph wind and the wind + debris damages the panels.



I know we have talked about it before but if we were really serious about renewables in this country the focus would be on storage and building more nuclear. (and hydro where applicable)


Biden wants to be neutral in 2030 but literally hasn’t done anything to get there. (except limit oil/gas)

Most of the wind turbines in Kansas and Cockeye were built because of the policies and programs Obama put into effect. No excuses why Biden hasn’t done something similar, especially since Democrats control the House & Senate.


Right now its all talk, we need some walk.

 

[God is a Husker]

Saw this on Twitter and thought the thread would appreciate.

 

[God is a Husker]