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[BushAK]

I remember talking to the Bennington Superintendent about this a few years back. Terry said there was some "traction" gathering steam within the NSAA to add a 'multiplier' to their enrollment (e.g. 35% or 40% more students on paper). It would have the net effect of taking schools like Skutt - who purposely limits their enrollment to remain within the Class B size band - to a Class A school.

The discussion that was taking place at the time was the % increase in enrollment as it compared to the student size per class "band" that relegates each school to a "class" for athletic competition. IIRC, the one-sized fits all approach worked better in the larger schools, and didn't work very well at all for the smaller "classes". If it couldn't be applied consistently, then it simply looked "punitive" in nature (e.g. "HEY SKUTT, SOME OTHER SCHOOLS WOULD LIKE TO WIN CLASS B WRASSLIN' FROM TIME TO TIME").

It's fairly complex, and most folks can see that in its current form, some kind of changes are needed to level the playing field. But how to apply that fairly? Well, it's easier to chirp from the cheap seats than it is to find a uniform method of evening things out.

Alaska used a similar formula. They used winning percentage over the past five years. Further complicating matters is for some private schools the boys team is bumped up but the girls team is not.

 

[Link-]

Falls City Sacred Heart would win every state title in D2 but the second they played a D1 school they got murdered.

God damn I loved when HTRS killed them @Link-

Fun times indeed. The most legendary game I've ever been to was Sacred Heart vs Table Rock when the streak was on the line. Both opening kickoffs returned for touchdowns, then an absolute slugfest. Shoutout to Coach Gottula for being an absolute boss in that game.

 

[Alum-Ni]

Different states do it differently in regards to private schools. Kansas is exploring a multiplier that may be put into effect in 2022-23. Kansas's premise is every parochial school with start with a multiplier of 1.0 and can then either go up or stay the same based on three factors:

1) Geographic Population: If there is a public school in the same area that is sorted into Class 6A or 5A, then 0.30 will be added to the private school’s multiplier. If a private school is in the same area as a Class 4A or 3A public school, then 0.15 would be added to the private school’s multiplier. (Think Norfolk Catholic, Fremont Bergan, Hastings St. Cecilia, etc.......Class C/D schools in towns of 20,000+ that are home to Class A/B schools).

2) Number of state championships in all sports won over the previous five-year period. If that total is more than 10, then the private school would have 0.30 added to their multiplier. If that total is between five and nine, then 0.15 would be added.

3) Third factor is based on a private school's free and reduced lunch population. If that total figure is below 20 percent, then 0.15 would be added to the multiplier.

The proposal in Kansas does that that a school cannot move up more than one classification due to a multiplier, and cannot force a school playing 8-man football to move up to 11-man. There is also no appeals process.

A total of 21 states use a multiplier of some sort. Oregon and Colorado also use factors such as socio-economic status and success history.

An older article, but back in 2013/14 a look at how different states at the time treated multipliers.

Compilation of how all 50 states handle competitive balance

Ohio's attempts to find a level playing field for public and private schools follows the path of many other states.

www.cleveland.com

 

[LoudHogRider]

Different states do it differently in regards to private schools. Kansas is exploring a multiplier that may be put into effect in 2022-23. Kansas's premise is every parochial school with start with a multiplier of 1.0 and can then either go up or stay the same based on three factors:

1) Geographic Population: If there is a public school in the same area that is sorted into Class 6A or 5A, then 0.30 will be added to the private school’s multiplier. If a private school is in the same area as a Class 4A or 3A public school, then 0.15 would be added to the private school’s multiplier. (Think Norfolk Catholic, Fremont Bergan, Hastings St. Cecilia, etc.......Class C/D schools in towns of 20,000+ that are home to Class A/B schools).

2) Number of state championships in all sports won over the previous five-year period. If that total is more than 10, then the private school would have 0.30 added to their multiplier. If that total is between five and nine, then 0.15 would be added.

3) Third factor is based on a private school's free and reduced lunch population. If that total figure is below 20 percent, then 0.15 would be added to the multiplier.

The proposal in Kansas does that that a school cannot move up more than one classification due to a multiplier, and cannot force a school playing 8-man football to move up to 11-man. There is also no appeals process.

A total of 21 states use a multiplier of some sort. Oregon and Colorado also use factors such as socio-economic status and success history.

An older article, but back in 2013/14 a look at how different states at the time treated multipliers.

Compilation of how all 50 states handle competitive balance

Ohio's attempts to find a level playing field for public and private schools follows the path of many other states.

www.cleveland.com

In all candor, the approach that Kansas is taking seems like a great first step. You can always tweak it going forward to address the "unintended consequences" that are bound to occur with any form of meddling in things.

 

[alt f4]

No, but I’m jealous. I coached legion ball there as recently as 2009 but they still hadn’t changed much at that point.

Isn’t East one of the biggest schools in Lincoln now by enrollment? That’s just crazy to me because we were smaller than all of them other than LSW and North Star (which both opened when I started high school).

Yeah they hadn't changed much until some doctor parents donated for a main gym renovation maybe 7 years ago now.

East is getting a ton of new students, I'm not sure how they are handling it. When I was a freshman it was maybe 1500 students, my niece goes there now and said they told them at the recent orientation it's about 2300.

The two new high schools will alleviate some of the High, East, and North Star numbers.

High: 2,362 students
East: 2,311 students
North Star: 2,164 students
Southeast: 2,077 students
Southwest: 2,055 students
Northeast: 1,779 students

 

[Jim14510]

Different states do it differently in regards to private schools. Kansas is exploring a multiplier that may be put into effect in 2022-23. Kansas's premise is every parochial school with start with a multiplier of 1.0 and can then either go up or stay the same based on three factors:

1) Geographic Population: If there is a public school in the same area that is sorted into Class 6A or 5A, then 0.30 will be added to the private school’s multiplier. If a private school is in the same area as a Class 4A or 3A public school, then 0.15 would be added to the private school’s multiplier. (Think Norfolk Catholic, Fremont Bergan, Hastings St. Cecilia, etc.......Class C/D schools in towns of 20,000+ that are home to Class A/B schools).

2) Number of state championships in all sports won over the previous five-year period. If that total is more than 10, then the private school would have 0.30 added to their multiplier. If that total is between five and nine, then 0.15 would be added.

3) Third factor is based on a private school's free and reduced lunch population. If that total figure is below 20 percent, then 0.15 would be added to the multiplier.

The proposal in Kansas does that that a school cannot move up more than one classification due to a multiplier, and cannot force a school playing 8-man football to move up to 11-man. There is also no appeals process.

A total of 21 states use a multiplier of some sort. Oregon and Colorado also use factors such as socio-economic status and success history.

An older article, but back in 2013/14 a look at how different states at the time treated multipliers.

Compilation of how all 50 states handle competitive balance

Ohio's attempts to find a level playing field for public and private schools follows the path of many other states.

www.cleveland.com

That makes a lot of sense. I really don't think Skutt is trying to limit enrollment. They hit the grade schools hard with promotional things, turn away very few kids, and have added on a couple of times the past five years or so to keep up with additional enrollment.

The advantage they have is that they get all of the second level sports talent in Omaha parochial schools and in the case of volleyball the top girls go there. If you want to play multiple sports or aren't clearly good enough to play at prep in a sport you'll pick Skutt. Especially effective with late bloomers. Plus occasionally being able to pick up talented poors through recruiting. That's always going to be an advantage for private schools.

If they went to Class A it would probably benefit schools like Mount Michael and Gross more than anyone.

 

[Huskerzz9457]

The two new high schools will alleviate some of the High, East, and North Star numbers.

High: 2,362 students
East: 2,311 students
North Star: 2,164 students
Southeast: 2,077 students
Southwest: 2,055 students
Northeast: 1,779 students

I'd guarantee for East that it's nearly impossible to walk to class, 1500 was pretty packed but 2300 is almost insane.

 

[HCFord1]

I'd guarantee for East that it's nearly impossible to walk to class, 1500 was pretty packed but 2300 is almost insane.

How many kids are they having share a locker?!?

 

[Huskerzz9457]

How many kids are they having share a locker?!?

My last year they made it so you didn't get one unless you wanted/needed one, I'd guess they are still doing that especially with +800 kids. Gym lockers I could see being a huge problem with 2300.

 

[aBgRdFn]

How many kids are they having share a locker?!?

Our kiddo said lockers were by request and most kids choose to not get the locker and carry a backpack all day instead.
Stairs are so busy there is a line to go up or down and they move very slow.

 

[HCFord1]

Our kiddo said lockers were by request and most kids choose to not get the locker and carry a backpack all day instead.
Stairs are so busy there is a line to go up or down and they move very slow.

Do they do block scheduling now? Back when I had 7 different classes per day there was no way I would carry all of my books around in a backpack all day. Stairs were busy when I was there so I’m sure they’re an absolute cluster now.

 

[God is a Husker]

I'd guarantee for East that it's nearly impossible to walk to class, 1500 was pretty packed but 2300 is almost insane.

Just moved from a county of roughly 2,300 people… in 1,000 sq miles

 

[aBgRdFn]

Do they do block scheduling now? Back when I had 7 different classes per day there was no way I would carry all of my books around in a backpack all day. Stairs were busy when I was there so I’m sure they’re an absolute cluster now.

No block scheduling at East. Nobody has received books yet, but they mostly use chrome books anyways.