MtnHusker said:

we have fans who are willing to give him 7+ years to turn this around.

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Jim14510 said:

Do we?

If his job was dependent on a fan vote where does the vote fall? Retain vs Fire

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MtnHusker said:

That would be a good question. I have a feeling most would say keep him for another season or 2 but he has to make some changes with his coaching staff. Some of our fans are so afraid of change or even willing to get rid of a Husker Legend. I think we give him at least 1 more year but no more than 2 years if we continue to lose. Firing him now would really divide our fan base.

Our former players certainly are held in high esteem. I cringe every time I see posters mention we should considering hiring Turner Gill as our Head Coach. I can't even begin to tell you how big of a mess the KU program was under his watch. His Christian Values and how he put them onto the team was not a good thing. Even the Asst Coaches knew his reign was going to be very short after the first team meeting. Turner addressed the team and gave them all kinds of rules, like cell phone restrictions, restrictions on the hours girls could be in their rooms....... and that there was no drinking during the season, and that included all of the coaches. When he said that his newly hired coaches were shocked because it was the first they had heard of it. His OC Chuck Long leaned over to another coach and said "well, looks like I'm out of here" after hearing the no drinking during the season for the Asst Coaches.

Posters also clamor for Mark Mangino and he was one of the biggest Pieces of Shit. He was fired because the police kept getting called to his house for Domestic Violence. AD Perkins lived 2 houses down from him so cop cars pulling up to his house at night didn't escape his watchful eye. KU does a great job keeping things quite that happen in Lawrence with players and coaches. Mangino has incredible anger issues, is a complete asshole and beats his wife.

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MtnHusker said:

That would be a good question. I have a feeling most would say keep him for another season or 2 but he has to make some changes with his coaching staff. Some of our fans are so afraid of change or even willing to get rid of a Husker Legend. I think we give him at least 1 more year but no more than 2 years if we continue to lose. Firing him now would really divide our fan base.

Our former players certainly are held in high esteem. I cringe every time I see posters mention we should considering hiring Turner Gill as our Head Coach. I can't even begin to tell you how big of a mess the KU program was under his watch. His Christian Values and how he put them onto the team was not a good thing. Even the Asst Coaches knew his reign was going to be very short after the first team meeting. Turner addressed the team and gave them all kinds of rules, like cell phone restrictions, restrictions on the hours girls could be in their rooms....... and that there was no drinking during the season, and that included all of the coaches. When he said that his newly hired coaches were shocked because it was the first they had heard of it. His OC Chuck Long leaned over to another coach and said "well, looks like I'm out of here" after hearing the no drinking during the season for the Asst Coaches.

Posters also clamor for Mark Mangino and he was one of the biggest Pieces of Shit. He was fired because the police kept getting called to his house for Domestic Violence. AD Perkins lived 2 houses down from him so cop cars pulling up to his house at night didn't escape his watchful eye. KU does a great job keeping things quite that happen in Lawrence with players and coaches. Mangino has incredible anger issues, is a complete asshole and beats his wife.

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TrentMilfer said:

does this change your mind about Mangino?

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Jim14510 said:

Buddy of mine that worked for Kansas said Bill Self is a huge prick too.

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MtnHusker said:

I haven't really interacted with him, use to have his cell number. Probably still got it somewhere. In public he is generally incredibly friendly. And really intelligent. Bill remembers the name of almost everyone he ever meets, seriously meets someone 3 years ago and remembers their name. The Asst Coaches and players like him. Bill does come across a bit as a Politican in that he is great at the PR stuff, maybe to some he can be an ass behind the scenes. I could see that if you got on his bad side he might be a complete ass.

Funny thing with Self, he has a rule pertaining to bars/restaurants and his players. If he is in the place first and they walk in they have to leave. If they were there first he has to leave. Pretty much no talking with each other just turn around and leave. Doesn't want to open the door to any negative publicity of players drinking around coaches or getting benefits. Bill is a very smart person and knows how to play the game

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Jim14510 said:

Friend worked on the huskervision (whatever Kansas is called) stuff. At least partially i think he was bitter about the rule bending. i.e. hiring another staff member but their job title was in some other department (like huskervision) so the budget numbers ran through their department and didn't count against any NCAA restrictions. I don't remember if there were any other examples of Self being a dick to him specifically. He's been at Auburn now for the last few years.

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MtnHusker said:

Sounds like a similar job one of my relatives held under Roy Williams. Technically worked for Sunflower Cable but had an office in Allen Fieldhouse and traveled with the team.

There are so many sneaky things colleges do to get around regulations and budgets. I have friends who have played football or basketball at Neb, Tennessee, Florida, KU, Stanford, ASU, KSU, ISU, Mizzou, Michigan, LSU, Texas, Fresno St, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Cockeyes, Northwestern......... and all of them have interesting stories of stuff that has gone on behind the scenes. Also interacted with a bunch of the coaches and it is all just playing the game, hoping not to get caught.

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Jim14510 said:

Buddy of mine that worked for Kansas said Bill Self is a huge prick too.

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MtnHusker said:

That would be a good question. I have a feeling most would say keep him for another season or 2 but he has to make some changes with his coaching staff. Some of our fans are so afraid of change or even willing to get rid of a Husker Legend. I think we give him at least 1 more year but no more than 2 years if we continue to lose. Firing him now would really divide our fan base.

Our former players certainly are held in high esteem. I cringe every time I see posters mention we should considering hiring Turner Gill as our Head Coach. I can't even begin to tell you how big of a mess the KU program was under his watch. His Christian Values and how he put them onto the team was not a good thing. Even the Asst Coaches knew his reign was going to be very short after the first team meeting. Turner addressed the team and gave them all kinds of rules, like cell phone restrictions, restrictions on the hours girls could be in their rooms....... and that there was no drinking during the season, and that included all of the coaches. When he said that his newly hired coaches were shocked because it was the first they had heard of it. His OC Chuck Long leaned over to another coach and said "well, looks like I'm out of here" after hearing the no drinking during the season for the Asst Coaches.

Posters also clamor for Mark Mangino and he was one of the biggest Pieces of Shit. He was fired because the police kept getting called to his house for Domestic Violence. AD Perkins lived 2 houses down from him so cop cars pulling up to his house at night didn't escape his watchful eye. KU does a great job keeping things quite that happen in Lawrence with players and coaches. Mangino has incredible anger issues, is a complete asshole and beats his wife.

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Cash68847 said:

Is the story true Mangino couldn’t wipe his own ass?

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