Transfer QB

[nscottie]

I’m especially annoyed with the rising consensus due to group think, that it’s a solid plan to go into next season with no QBs with more experience and/or achievement than TJ in the belief that somehow “competition” will solve the issue. That somehow a “game manager” type is all the team will need if they have solid (not sure what degree of good that is) o-line play and RB play.

I think you’ll be unhappy to learn that the results will not look much different than they did this year.

I’m not interested in having a season that looks like Cockeye. What’s the real difference between what Cockeye did and what we did? Neither is in the CFP, or B1G CG?

I would much rather take a fucking swing to get one of the good ones than purposefully handcuff myself because shit didn’t work out with Dylan.

It’s the fucking equivalent of settling for a 4 or 5 because an 8 burned you. JFC, grow some fucking balls and go for it. For a board full of alpha male 2A Pubes you would think there would be more sack in here.

You seem to be annoyed by everything.

 

[realbp]

You seem to be annoyed by everything.

Nope. Just the QB discussion.

 

[nscottie]

Nope. Just the QB discussion.

Guess I just see all your negative posts.

 

[realbp]

Guess I just see all your negative posts.

In this thread, or in reference to QBs in other threads. I’m not running away from it regardless of the potatoes.

 

[V-Doub]

No kidding a QB is going to cost money. What’s understood doesn’t need to be discussed.

First of all, plenty of people have said it and alluded to it in posts. They’re in this thread and not hard to find.

Second, who fucking cares if TJ leaves because they bring in a proven guy. We talk about him like he’s going to be special; I don’t think he’s going to be good (would love to be wrong).

The suggestion of bringing in a guy on a 105-man roster who has ZERO offers is insane. If you can find someone to co-sign this suggestion I’ll refrain from this thread.

I think you/we need to just see who they bring in and then we’re gonna have to wait and see what that player(s) does.

Indiana brought in Fernando Mendoza and Ole Miss brought in Trinidad Chambliss. Both those guys have played awesome and are in playoffs. Pretty much nobody considered either of those guys as “home runs” out of the portal. You don’t have to get one of the top 5 consensus portal QBs to actually get a legit top 5 portal QB.

 

[Goskers07]

No kidding a QB is going to cost money. What’s understood doesn’t need to be discussed.

First of all, plenty of people have said it and alluded to it in posts. They’re in this thread and not hard to find.

Second, who fucking cares if TJ leaves because they bring in a proven guy. We talk about him like he’s going to be special; I don’t think he’s going to be good (would love to be wrong).

The suggestion of bringing in a guy on a 105-man roster who has ZERO offers is insane. If you can find someone to co-sign this suggestion I’ll refrain from this thread.

Let's take this paragraph by paragraph, because your getting delusional now.

That post that started this was literally saying you don't want to pay for a scout team QB, so bring in a shit guy to be a 4th or 5th arm. But you keep ignoring that for some odd reason.

No, no they haven't. Find me a post that says we should only be bringing in guys without experience.

You should care if we lose TJ, as outlined literally in the post you quoted. If we bring in a guy that we guarantee the starting spot to but he turns out to be trash (see also: Jeff Sins), then TJ leaves (solid floor with a high ceiling that he has yet to achieve), and your stuck with said shit QB or worse. I've been very vocal that TJ isn't there yet, but if you think he's maxed out already, then you're an idiot.

If you can find a guy worth a shit with offers that is willing to just be your scout team arm and not get paid, then its a unicorn. Again, delusional to think otherwise. You're trying to emphasize the 105 point. As has been stated elsewhere (not sure if this thread or another), Rhule generally treats things like its an NFL roster and uses roughly 55 guys on a regular basis. That leaves 50 guys as reserves, roughly half of which will be strictly P Squad guys. Thats where the 4th or 5th QB goes. I'm really stunned that there is anyone that is incapable of grasping that, but here you are.

 

[realbp]

I think you/we need to just see who they bring in and then we’re gonna have to wait and see what that player(s) does.

Indiana brought in Fernando Mendoza and Ole Miss brought in Trinidad Chambliss. Both those guys have played awesome and are in playoffs. Pretty much nobody considered either of those guys as “home runs” out of the portal. You don’t have to get one of the top 5 consensus portal QBs to actually get a legit top 5 portal QB.

Mendoza had a great season at Cal the previous year.

I’ll agree with you on Trinidad, but he was the backup until an injury occurred.

 

[realbp]

Let's take this paragraph by paragraph, because your getting delusional now.

That post that started this was literally saying you don't want to pay for a scout team QB, so bring in a shit guy to be a 4th or 5th arm. But you keep ignoring that for some odd reason.

No, no they haven't. Find me a post that says we should only be bringing in guys without experience.

You should care if we lose TJ, as outlined literally in the post you quoted. If we bring in a guy that we guarantee the starting spot to but he turns out to be trash (see also: Jeff Sins), then TJ leaves (solid floor with a high ceiling that he has yet to achieve), and your stuck with said shit QB or worse. I've been very vocal that TJ isn't there yet, but if you think he's maxed out already, then you're an idiot.

If you can find a guy worth a shit with offers that is willing to just be your scout team arm and not get paid, then it’s a unicorn. Again, delusional to think otherwise. You're trying to emphasize the 105 point. As has been stated elsewhere (not sure if this thread or another), Rhule generally treats things like it’s an NFL roster and uses roughly 55 guys on a regular basis. That leaves 50 guys as reserves, roughly half of which will be strictly P Squad guys. Thats where the 4th or 5th QB goes. I'm really stunned that there is anyone that is incapable of grasping that, but here you are.

Guy, I’m going to stop with the conversation. I was unaware that serious P4 programs were taking social media QBs for scout team. Typically, 3rd string guy would take scout reps, but here we are having to explain that.

 

[Toe]

Sigh.
I realize this. Almost wrote in my post "not that true walk-ons exsist any more" but figured it was unnesseary explanation. I guess I was wrong. That's why I wrote "walk-on level QB (like Longval and Soukup)."

And there is a reason to take guys like that, to operate units in practice. We never needed Longval or Soukup to play in a game, but if we're going to get reps for depth players in practice or if we're going to fill scout teams, we need QBs to run those units. That's where "walk-on level" (remember, walk-ons are not a thing anymore) players come in. In your own post I was replying to, you say we need to take four QB's in the portal to get back to previous levels. Well, the previous levels included practice QB's like Longval and Soukup. No need to go to the portal for those guys if we can find them locally for relatively no money.

I'm gonna be real with you, chief: I was giving you the benefit of the doubt with my comment before, because deliberately burning scholarships and roster spots on walk-on level guys is the stupidest fucking thing I've heard all day.

 

[Goskers07]

Guy, I’m going to stop with the conversation. I was unaware that serious P4 programs were taking social media QBs for scout team. Typically, 3rd string guy would take scout reps, but here we are having to explain that.

I appreciate that you don't understand how this all works. I just wish you'd have been more upfront with that.

 

[realbp]

I appreciate that you don't understand how this all works. I just wish you'd have been more upfront with that.

I’m sure I’m the only one in this conversation who has been in a college locker room as a player and not a meat gazer.

 

[Goskers07]

I’m sure I’m the only one in this conversation who has been in a college locker room as a player and not a meat gazer.

I mean, you'd be wrong but thats ok.

 

[ChocaEgg]

 

[mrmac429]

 

[realbp]

I mean, you'd be wrong but thats ok.

 

[realbp]

@NCsker you going to jump in or dick ride?

 

[NCsker]

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@NCsker you going to jump in or dick ride?

Yep. I had started to respond on your last post but decided not to hit send because you know, Christmas and all.

But My god you have been a huge fucktard lately.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

Yep. I had started to respond on your last post but decided not to hit send because you know, Christmas and all.

But My god you have been a huge fucktard lately.

 

[realbp]

Yep. I had started to respond on your last post but decided not to hit send because you know, Christmas and all.

But My god you have been a huge fucktard lately.

Do you have an opinion on the subject matter? You seem to think that my take is the opposite of good. So, I assume you’re off the mind that we need to take two or possibly three career backups out guys who were competitive but lost the job in fall camp.

 

[wildcat_husker]

Do you have an opinion on the subject matter? You seem to think that my take is the opposite of good. So, I assume you’re off the mind that we need to take two or possibly three career backups out guys who were competitive but lost the job in fall camp.

I’m shocked at the pushback you’re receiving. I think it seems reasonable.