So… Where do we go from here?

[Pipe Line]

Lateef didn't look bad. Wild (and inaccurate) to say that he looked in way over his head.

The moment looked too big. Defense gave him zero help to stay in the game, however.

 

[king_kong_]

0 catches in our last 2.5 games… the time since Dylan went down.

I also gave you multiple examples of him making critical plays in the last six games, but it’s not enough for you.

TJ runs the true freshman offense and gets through like two reads, so he’s not using a TE. Maybe you should criticize him?

Oh wait, you’d never because that would be inferred support of Dylan.

o jeez, you're right. 10 catches in our last 7 (!) games, not 6.

"really good" players typically have plays called to get them involved. they're a priority. especially when the offense is struggling.

guess he did have a tough drop down the sideline on Saturday.

appreciate you proving my point here, friend. he, much like your emotional governor, has completely disappeared.

 

[HCFord1]

o jeez, you're right. 10 catches in our last 7 (!) games, not 6.

"really good" players typically have plays called to get them involved. they're a priority. especially when the offense is struggling.

guess he did have a tough drop down the sideline on Saturday.

appreciate you proving my point here, friend. he, much like your emotional governor, has completely disappeared.

Was Jacory Barney not a good player when he had 36 yards receiving over a 4 game stretch during which we went 2-2?

 

[wildcat_husker]

Was Jacory Barney not a good player when he had 36 yards receiving over a 4 game stretch during which we went 2-2?

I wouldn't waste your time with that idiot.

 

[Mavsker]

4th easiest since 2016.*

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3rd easiest*

 

[vailhusker]

Biggest problem with Ty and Nash leaving there was no plan to replace them. It’s not like the coaches didn't know that they were leaving. So where was your developmental guys if you didn't want to spend the money in the portal. If their plan was to go with Jeudy, RVP, and a couple low level dudes from the portal to replace them then they have bigger problems.

 

[wildcat_husker]

Biggest problem with Ty and Nash leaving there was no plan to replace them. It’s not like the coaches didn't know that they were leaving. So where was your developmental guys if you didn't want to spend the money in the portal. If their plan was to go with Jeudy, RVP, and a couple low level dudes from the portal to replace them then they have bigger problems.

I have to think they tried and struck out (I have no idea) because it was an issue/concern that everyone saw.

 

[Quint]

I have to think they tried and struck out (I have no idea) because it was an issue/concern that everyone saw.

This is where I’m at.

They had a list of names. Those names either didn’t want to come to Lincoln, took more money elsewhere, etc., so it’s not like they didn’t try.

 

[ChocaEgg]

Biggest problem with Ty and Nash leaving there was no plan to replace them. It’s not like the coaches didn't know that they were leaving. So where was your developmental guys if you didn't want to spend the money in the portal. If their plan was to go with Jeudy, RVP, and a couple low level dudes from the portal to replace them then they have bigger problems.

Also need to adapt your scheme to the personnel you have. We're trying to do things we don't have the roster to do. Just doesn't make any sense.

I suppose there is a possibility that the guys we have on the DL aren't as bad as they seem and the issue is on the coaching side, but who knows

 

[vailhusker]

I have to think they tried and struck out (I have no idea) because it was an issue/concern that everyone saw.

I hope they have the money that they say they have to go after some guys in the portal because they are looking at the same situation this offseason now minus Jeudy.

They have the same problem at OT. They did get Pritchett in the portal but were are the development guys? Teddy and Corcoran should have been recruited over long ago but they still had to use both of them this season. Hopefully they can get Gottula back on track after his injury but they are going to have to go to the portal again for at least one maybe two OTs this offseason too.

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

Biggest problem with Ty and Nash leaving there was no plan to replace them. It’s not like the coaches didn't know that they were leaving. So where was your developmental guys if you didn't want to spend the money in the portal. If their plan was to go with Jeudy, RVP, and a couple low level dudes from the portal to replace them then they have bigger problems.

I think a first year DC & first year DL coach may have complicated this somewhat. But agreed there was a gap there, and hope we have plans to aggressively address it.

 

[nja13]

We’re 7-4 and likely to be 7-5 after next Friday. Rhule has a new contract, he’s not going anywhere and we’re honestly only marginally better. Also, we potentially have a QB contraversy… I say, try to keep both QBs, I think Lateef can be convinced that he’s not ready yet, but he can be our guy eventually. Hopefully you can keep Dylan committed, but don’t hamstring yourself financially if the ask is too big. I think keeping Raiola is the ideal path, but if he and his camp are demanding too much you gotta let him walk. What I think the more important objective should be getting better in the trenches.

IMO, we need to let the chips fall where they lay with regards to our QB situation. As long as we keep 1 it’s not the end of world. Try to retain both within the context of making the entire team better. If that means cutting Donnie’s sack and losing Dylan, so be it. Our number one priority needs to being fixing the O-line and D-line. We need 2-3 o-lineman from the portal. Retain Justin Evans and get an OT and OG. Or get a C, OT and OG if Evans isn’t back for some reason. Then we need a legit NT (run stuffer) and another pass rusher on the D-line. And if you (Rhule) don’t think we can rebuild/retool the o-line with uncle Donnie, and you think firing/demoting him will cost you Dylan. So be it. Getting better upfront is too important.

Summary… IMO, We need to get better upfront on both sides of the ball and that has to be the number 1 priority above all else. And if that costs us a good QB and shitty OL coach it’s worth it. What say you? Where do we go from here…

(also kinda drunk so I apologize if this is all over map)

 

[Kaladin]

Biggest problem with Ty and Nash leaving there was no plan to replace them. It’s not like the coaches didn't know that they were leaving. So where was your developmental guys if you didn't want to spend the money in the portal. If their plan was to go with Jeudy, RVP, and a couple low level dudes from the portal to replace them then they have bigger problems.

I think someone on here said we were pursuing that Oklahoma DT who entered the portal, but then he decided to stay in Oklahoma. Would have been a huge get for us.

 

[gtlacey]

3rd easiest*

My bad, that's a good correction. But at least we agree this is not the easiest schedule since 2016?

 

[Mavsker]

My bad, that's a good correction. But at least we agree this is not the easiest schedule since 2016?

Yeah if you're fact checking my meme, it is not quite our easiest schedule since 2016

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

Don’t totally see the point on the schedule. Seems like we didn’t play the top end of the conference (games we would’ve lost) as much as years past, but are those really affecting the win total? It’s otherwise a pretty standard B1G slate

 

[vailhusker]

Also need to adapt your scheme to the personnel you have. We're trying to do things we don't have the roster to do. Just doesn't make any sense.

I suppose there is a possibility that the guys we have on the DL aren't as bad as they seem and the issue is on the coaching side, but who knows

The DEs they have are or will be good, need to find some DT/NT guys to complement them. Unfortunately they didn't seem to have the right kind of LBs to help with the smaller DL this year. Looks like they are trying to use more OLB type guys as ILB this year. So they are smaller up front and smaller in the middle at the second level too. No John Bullock type of guys for example.

They lost some players (and recruiting connections) that would have helped this year when TWhite and Pot Roast left but they also lost support staff that also worked with the LBs. I believe White was working with the LBs and he had a long term guy that worked with him helping at LB too, and another guy helping at OLB. I don't know if they replaced those guys but that leaves you with Dvoracek at ILB and Simpson first time coach at OLB.

 

[vailhusker]

I think a first year DC & first year DL coach may have complicated this somewhat. But agreed there was a gap there, and hope we have plans to aggressively address it.

It didn't help to bring a NFL guy with no recruiting connections in at DL and he came late as well after the super bowl. But the staff knew that but apparently didn't do much to fill in the gap to help him out.

 

[king_kong_]

Was Jacory Barney not a good player when he had 36 yards receiving over a 4 game stretch during which we went 2-2?

I think it’s fair to say Barney hasn’t been the game breaking difference maker we hoped he’d blossom into at this point.

But, no. He was still a priority for both the offense and special teams and likely dinged up.

10 catches in 7 games for LL is a pretty telling stretch.

What I’m saying isn’t even controversial. If we have a chance to upgrade at TE, we should absolutely take it.

 

[Tonkasker]

Simple. This team lacked bodies. Just go buy them.

If they fail to do that then its over. Might not be next year but rhule's tenure will be won or lost in the portal this offseason