The CBS CFB social media guy hates Tom Fornelli (UM/NU related)

[HerbRedman]

This is hilarious. They have video of Tom Fornelli saying he is "done" with Dylan Raiola as a good QB, he does too many Mahomes-isms, unnecessary sidearm throws etc...

Then they have video of some of Raiola's best escapes + passes of the game playing under it as b-roll. It makes no sense.

It's quite hilarious. Fornelli is getting roasted - even by Biff's Butthole Surfers fans - in the comments. These comments are worth a read if you're needing a good laugh.

 

[BorWhiskey]

I sent him a DM yesterday after listening to that saying his assessment that Underwood sees the field better was half assed and careless, and evident that he only is basing it on a surface level watch. He actually responded and we had a somewhat lengthy back and forth (lengthy given the format). I didn’t get him to come off of his opinion but here is why he’s saying those things:

- DR averages only a few yards a pass
- Holgo’s offense is predicated on quick “this or that”
- therefore DR is a one read guy

We basically just agreed to disagree but was surprised he even responded to me after I came out calling him careless. He was most offended by me saying he is basing it off of a passive single watch. Sort of calling his integrity on the topic into question I suppose.

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For us all, DR sees the field pretty darn well as evident by his completion rate, TD/INT, and yards thrown through basically 3.2 games having sat out a lot against Akron and HCU.

What he does before the snap is uses the pre snap motion to get basic read on man v zone, he checks for numbers advantage and adjusts play side for both run and pass, he moves how the line blocks and where they get help, and from what I’ve heard, we think he has a pretty good pre snap adjustment hit rate. That’s a lot.

After snap he works through progressions which is why we see him check down so much. The RB who chipped is a check down, likely third option.

And going back to adjusting play side… with a pass, I recall a play in Cincy where the play side based on design was going left to right, 1. RB running to flat, 2. TE running stick, 3. Back side slot running slant. Based on pre snap read, DR saw them showing cover 2 zone and pressing, so he flipped his progressions to right to left, 1. Does the corner fall back into cover 3 or stay shallow so I can throw the ball between corner and safety, 2. Slot running slant, 3. TE on stick.

Again, this is heady. He’s not perfect but he understands the game very well. His largest area for improvement is in hitting the deep ball (he overthrows them too much, and likely is why he has stopped throwing them as much this year). And I have a feeling the other area is trusting his WR. That he isn’t taking a risk that they drop the ball in traffic so moves onto his next read too quickly.

 

[Cornicator]

What Tom Fornelli and Bud Elliot have to say about Dylan Raiola is now bordering on a personal vendetta. Its gone beyond fair and reasonable analysis and is now venturing into hatred territory.

 

[herbsinator]

I just don’t get the take that we should somehow be mad about how Raiola is playing. Honestly, it’s hard to imagine he could play that much better given the circumstances

 

[MaxHuskers34]

I left a comment on tik tok that he needs to worry less about Dylan Raiola and more about fixing his teeth and donating more to Illinois' NIL so they don't get raped again on national tv

 

[HCFord1]

What Tom Fornelli and Bud Elliot have to say about Dylan Raiola is now bordering on a personal vendetta. Its gone beyond fair and reasonable analysis and is now venturing into hatred territory.

The hate from guys like that, Barstool, etc. is eventually going to flip the narrative on Dylan as long as he plays well. People will want to see him succeed because you have the least likable people in sports hating on him incessantly.

 

[Blakejc]

Just ignore these buffoons. Getting mad about what they’re saying plays right into their hand.

 

[nscottie]

I posted in another thread, the CBS Sports bio on Fornelli. It said something to the effect of him writing to bag on your favorite team no matter who they are. He’s a paid shit disturber. The best way to handle writers like him is to not give them clicks.

 

[Flabio]

Who cares. These guy are click bait weirdos who aren’t professional and aren’t being objective. Fuck em.

 

[huskersoup]

Tom Fornelli said before last year that Nico at Tenessee was the best QB in the country based off having one start against Cockeye in a bowl game, that’s all you need to know.

 

[ZJSARENOTFREE]

The Mahomes stuff is over played now. Dylan brought that on himself a little bit, but the joke is over now. These retards can't seem to move on.

 

[skersker]

guys an idiot

having said that, i would like to see dylan step into some throws with some urgency and velocity eventually lol

 

[Herbie]

That guy is a choad.
I hate on Raiola because I’m a mildly autistic Nebraska fan that’s been burned too much.

But to hate because he acts like Mahomes while balling out in probably the best game of his career is dumb

 

[HerbRedman]

Who cares. These guy are click bait weirdos who aren’t professional and aren’t being objective. Fuck em.

BTW to reiterate, the point of the thread is that it was hilarious that the video editor put b-roll of Raiola making amazing plays.

It didn't match Fornelli saying he sucks. Even the commentors were like 'this video doesn't match the words.'

As a former media industry guy I found that hilarious.

 

[HerbRedman]

What Tom Fornelli and Bud Elliot have to say about Dylan Raiola is now bordering on a personal vendetta. Its gone beyond fair and reasonable analysis and is now venturing into hatred territory.

The hate from guys like that, Barstool, etc. is eventually going to flip the narrative on Dylan as long as he plays well. People will want to see him succeed because you have the least likable people in sports hating on him incessantly.

I've thought a lot about this. I always just thought it was the national media's hate for Nebraska + hate for the player, etc. Then I asked myself, would Raiola be getting this much hate if he was at Tennessee or FSU? I actually think it would be the same.

I think some view him as cocky/privileged. Son of a millionaire ex-player. I think it's similar to the hate some had for Kobe Bryant when he was starting out ("he's copying Jordan" etc). Also Dylan plays so nonchalantly (in appearance), that feeds into it.

I actually hated Kobe for like his first 3-4 yrs. I never became a fan but I dropped the pretense that it was bc he was copying Jordan. I just found him annoying.


The odd thing is, the fact that Dylan went to a 4-8/5-7 program should endear him to the masses. Obviously he wasn't a glory hunter. He was willing to roll his sleeves up at a 5-7 program to turn it around. That in itself should show you he's not a cocky privileged, 19-yr old a-hole. He's actually a really good kid and very normal and very humble.

 

[Ext. 55]

I've thought a lot about this. I always just thought it was the national media's hate for Nebraska + hate for the player, etc. Then I asked myself, would Raiola be getting this much hate if he was at Tennessee or FSU? I actually think it would be the same.

I think some view him as cocky/privileged. Son of a millionaire ex-player. I think it's similar to the hate some had for Kobe Bryant when he was starting out ("he's copying Jordan" etc). Also Dylan plays so nonchalantly (in appearance), that feeds into it.

I actually hated Kobe for like his first 3-4 yrs. I never became a fan but I dropped the pretense that it was bc he was copying Jordan. I just found him annoying.


The odd thing is, the fact that Dylan went to a 4-8/5-7 program should endear him to the masses. Obviously he wasn't a glory hunter. He was willing to roll his sleeves up at a 5-7 program to turn it around. That in itself should show you he's not a cocky privileged, 19-yr old a-hole. He's actually a really good kid and very normal and very humble.

That last paragraph especially...had he gone to Georgia or Ohio State, the other stuff fits. He did not. He went to what has been a shit program for the last 15 years. Enough said.

 

[Kaladin]

Truly do not understand the Raiola hate. I don’t care how it looks when he’s this efficient and accurate. Spend some time talking to him and you’ll realize how much he loves the game and loves the process. Teammates love him too. He was under pressure the entire afternoon but kept standing in their tall and delivering accurate passes. At this point the weirdness has flipped to those on the outside. Hes a great player.

 

[MaxHuskers34]

It won't be long before one of the big networks snags Jake Butt. He's actually phenomenal to listen to.

 

[Tell_Sackett]

Raiola is through game 4 of year 2. He's averaging nearly 300 yds per game, completing 75% of his throws, and has thrown 11 TDs and 1 INT.

He has limited ability to hurt you with his legs and he held on to the ball too long on a few occasions in the UM game. Ok....

The hate comes purely from the Mahomes mimicry imo. You can't objectively say he's played poorly this year.