Duval

[Faux Sean Callahan]

So did everyone just pack it in knowing they were going to get fired?

I don't know that, but it sure looks like it

 

[Cash68847]

I don't know that, but it sure looks like it

I think Whipple is a solid coach, but that hire never made sense to me with the Raiola hire. You didn’t have 2-3 years to get it right. You had to be in win now mentality. I didn’t get changing your offense quite a bit and hiring a novice line coach to boot. Having said that it might have worked out if the defense wasn’t such hot garbage.

 

[NEHusker54]

The conditioning part this year was bad

So bad they puked 25 times a day

 

[Alcaus]

I've been fighting this battle on Nebraska message boards for almost three years. Mongos and taters love the dude though.

Mongos love flat tops on white guys

 

[HuskerDocCo]

Duval fooled a lot of people with strength testing numbers (through the roof) but the red flags appeared when we started looking at 40 times.

A white walk-on from Benkelman who never sees the field is our most athletic player for shits sake.

Duval can get guys to bench and squat. What he absolutely failed at was speed & agility development and flexibility.

A lot of strength guys lose sight of those two things. With our next strength coach, we need an assistant strength coach who oversees the speed and agility portion. A few teams have done this with a “feed the cats” approach and I believe, physiologically, it works.

mmmhhmm that’s some yummy info terd bait , check back in 20 minutes 😇

 

[ChocaEgg]

Duval fooled a lot of people with strength testing numbers (through the roof) but the red flags appeared when we started looking at 40 times.

A white walk-on from Benkelman who never sees the field is our most athletic player for shits sake.

Duval can get guys to bench and squat. What he absolutely failed at was speed & agility development and flexibility.

A lot of strength guys lose sight of those two things. With our next strength coach, we need an assistant strength coach who oversees the speed and agility portion. A few teams have done this with a “feed the cats” approach and I believe, physiologically, it works.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

I think Whipple is a solid coach, but that hire never made sense to me with the Raiola hire. You didn’t have 2-3 years to get it right. You had to be in win now mentality. I didn’t get changing your offense quite a bit and hiring a novice line coach to boot. Having said that it might have worked out if the defense wasn’t such hot garbage.

I liked Whipple. Felt like he brought discipline(no offensive penalties for the first 6 quarters roughly), passing concepts and somebody older. I felt like you mixed that with Frosts wrinkles in the run game and it could go somewhere.

Raiola was the one I didn't get. There was a guy from ND I thought we should've pushed for.

I truly don't get why the bottom fell out of the defense and S&C.

 

[Eloot224]

Duval, the bootleg Chuck Zito. I’ve been bagging on his S&C program for years. Only to have the taters of The Republic of Mongo run me off.
He must have skipped Boyd’s classes on explosiveness 101.

#BiggerFatterSlower

 

[slattimer]

the taters of The Republic of Mongo

This never gets old. I'm in tears.

 

[11husker23]

Duval, the bootleg Chuck Zito. I’ve been bagging on his S&C program for years. Only to have the taters of The Republic of Mongo run me off.
He must have skipped Boyd’s classes on explosiveness 101.

#BiggerFatterSlower

Just look at Martinez year one to year two. Dude looked fast and explosive only to be made fat and slow by DuVaL.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

I think Whipple is a solid coach, but that hire never made sense to me with the Raiola hire. You didn’t have 2-3 years to get it right. You had to be in win now mentality. I didn’t get changing your offense quite a bit and hiring a novice line coach to boot. Having said that it might have worked out if the defense wasn’t such hot garbage.

Yeah, looking at what the gameplan has been, I don't understand the Whipple move at all. We didn't have to reinvent the world this year. If we could just run fucking IZ constantly over the last 2-3 years our offense is fine.

 

[huskerj12]

Mongos love flat tops on white guys

Also, he's just straight up bald. His flat top doesn't have a top! Strange look.

 

[Juro]

So my thinking is, is Duval a bad S&C coach or did he do exactly what Frost wanted him to do with the players?

Or was it a mix?

 

[slattimer]

did he do exactly what Frost wanted him to do with the players?

I think it's way more this than anything. He may be gruff, but I don't think he's an incompetent S&C.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

I would still rather have a sprint-focused S&C program. We should be at the leading edge on all things S&C

 

[Jim14510]

Fire everybody and start over. No holdovers in the AD, strength staff, football program at all.

Keep waterboy though.

 

[LoudHogRider]

Keep waterboy though.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Fire everybody and start over. No holdovers in the AD, strength staff, football program at all.

Keep waterboy though.

I would be ok with keeping 5 coaches off this staff.. (not all 5, but these are the 5 that I think are good coaches).
1. Mickey
2. Busch
3. Applewhite
4. Beckton
5. Fisher - his stock has fallen a lot this year IMO.

I think the last two are the least likely to be retained, but I think they are good coaches that I would be ok with keeping.

The new coach if I had to guess probably keep 2 from the top 3

Also Beckton and Fisher aren't "Frost guys." They are UCF guys at their core. Not sure that makes a big difference, but something to note.

I would also keep the nutrition guy(Dave Ellis)… I would also keep Guinta.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

So my thinking is, is Duval a bad S&C coach or did he do exactly what Frost wanted him to do with the players?

Or was it a mix?

I think it's way more this than anything. He may be gruff, but I don't think he's an incompetent S&C.

It is documented that after Michigan his 1st year Frost basically changed everything he wanted from his players as far as body types....

I don't know about Duval, prior to this year we physically went toe to toe with some of the top programs in the country and I never felt we were physically out gunned. This years roster has a ton of less than 1 year in the program players contributing and this is the worst it has looked as far as S&C IMO.

I also think it is interesting that his guys typically test well at the combine.

I can see the twitchy/explosion argument(that @ChocaEgg makes), but how much of that is on Duval vs Frost wanting a bigger roster.

 

[betsch]

Also, he's just straight up bald. His flat top doesn't have a top! Strange look.

The anti-mohawk