Unpopular opinion but I don’t hate the call as much as others do. Even with them recovering you are still up by 11. Defense wasn’t stopping them whether they got the ball on their own 25 or our 40. Get the ball back and score and that’s the dagger.
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I would have love to have been in the booth
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Interestingly the defense had just stopped them the previous two drives. I would have made them go 75 and prove it.
One of those was that lucky fumble we recovered after a long run. They score if that fumble doesn’t happen.
It should be like in a submarine where two separate officers with keys have to turn them in order to launch the nukes. One other coach should have to sign off on all of Frost’s decisions going forward.
Eh I remember him talking to Franke and I don't think irate would be the term I would use. I will have to go back and watch it.
So, I initially hated the call, but it now in the meh category for me.
They had the look and odds are in your favor so for any other team I think it makes a ton of sense to try it. I just don't think we had a mentally strong enough team to handle it not working.
At the end of the day our defense not being able to stop the run and giving up 500 yards is why we lost.
They had the look and odds are in your favor so for any other team I think it makes a ton of sense to try it. I just don't think we had a mentally strong enough team to handle it not working.
At the end of the day our defense not being able to stop the run and giving up 500 yards is why we lost.
I previously advocated for him to have a headset that was not connected to anything, and nothing that happened Saturday changed my mind.
When you are playing against a team that doesn't have a good offense, you don't need to help them at all. If it was Oklahoma, Ohio State, or someone you have to keep scoring on I get it, but not against NW.
Eh close to my opinion... I would say if we were playing a team that was more talented than us I like the call.
Against a team like NW in that situation I go into almost "don't lose it" mode. Calling more runs, making it more conservative and shrinking the game.
Either way I don't hate the call right now and I think it is being over blown.
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I'm surprised to hear that.
I think the 60% success rate falls into the "stats in a vacuum" category. You can't roll the dice with a 40% risk of failure when your team has history of imploding. You are literally creating out of thin air the catalyst for the implosion you know they are concerned is coming.
He said after the game he wanted to make good on the aggressiveness he had been preaching. But this crossed the line to recklessness and stank of desperation. This wasn't aggression born of confidence, it was aggression born of fear.
His team also needs to be disciplined and have the opportunity to see a gameplan through to successful completion. Instead they were treated to a high stakes gamble -- he was willing to risk losing a game they had control of, and that the program desperately needed to win, for the chance to maybe, if things go right, increase a lead they already had. Because even in success you guarantee nothing. The offense still has to go 60 yards to meaningfully change the game (a FG doesn't do it with an 11-point lead).
Fitzgerald did what we've seen so many other coaches do -- wait around for NU to collapse. And Frost went ahead and got the ball rolling for him.
If your job is on the line and you have a history of making stupid mistakes, especially in special teams, I am kicking it all day long. Just my opinion. If NW does it and fails, it doesn't get near as much attention, but since it is Frost, he will be roasted alive.
Sadly yes. I ran into one at the bar later that night! He stated over and over how frost “loves” this place and nobody could replace him that would love it as much as he could. After arguing with him for 10 minutes I gave up.
LOL I love this place too, but that doesn't mean I should be coaching the Huskers 🙁
He loves NU football like Nero loved Rome, or maybe like Jack Kevorkian loved his patients.
ESPN citing a different stat about the prevalence of onside kicks with a big lead:
"There's nothing ordinary, or even necessary, about attempting an onside kick in that situation, even for programs with reputations of closing out games. According to ESPN Stats & Information research, only two FBS teams leading by 10 or more points in the second half attempted an onside kick last season."
"There's nothing ordinary, or even necessary, about attempting an onside kick in that situation, even for programs with reputations of closing out games. According to ESPN Stats & Information research, only two FBS teams leading by 10 or more points in the second half attempted an onside kick last season."
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Just one other thing on this that I saw: NU already had an 87.4% win probability when they kicked off 28-17. The reward just couldn't justify the risk.
Add it to the huge list of games where NU under Frost was statistically very likely to win during the game but that they still found a way to lose.
Add it to the huge list of games where NU under Frost was statistically very likely to win during the game but that they still found a way to lose.
I don't care that much about it. Northwestern getting the most yards against us since Ohio St. 2020 was a way bigger deal and a much bigger cause for concern.
Beat at the LOS, LB's nowhere to be found, secondary shredded, and lots of missed tackles. Against Northwestern. Scary.
