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Sign Up Now!lol at standing up for calling screens when they haven’t worked at any point this season and gaslighting everyone to think it’s Ohio state specificThe screen game "hasn't been terrible for us"???? Yikes...
Square peg, round hole. After seeing so much screen play failures ALL season.... just stop doing it so damn much. They don't work for us.From what I can tell the screens were fairly well schemed but our players absolutely suck at executing them. There were a few from Saturday that would’ve been large gains if we didn’t whiff on the blocks.
Ultimately on the coaching staff thought to know we can’t execute them even if they are looking juicy during game planning.
Yup. I get scheme wise they plays could work and there’s opportunity for big plays. He also doesn’t want to blame the players — fine.Square peg, round hole. After seeing so much screen play failures ALL season.... just stop doing it so damn much. They don't work for us.
People are talking way too much about Satterfield's play calling and not nearly enough about how sloppy the execution isFrom what I can tell the screens were fairly well schemed but our players absolutely suck at executing them. There were a few from Saturday that would’ve been large gains if we didn’t whiff on the blocks.
Ultimately on the coaching staff thought to know we can’t execute them even if they are looking juicy during game planning.
The screen game "hasn't been terrible for us"???? Yikes...
I was listening to the Gary Sharp podcast and one of the guys on there did a rewatch of the OSU game and he said that Dylan actually checked in to a lot of those screen pass plays. He didn't notice it in the live game but he noticed it on the rewatch.lol at standing up for calling screens when they haven’t worked at any point this season and gaslighting everyone to think it’s Ohio state specific
I agree with not blasting the players even if it makes you look dumb. The players can be accountable to the coaching staff and each other in the locker or meeting rooms without public blasting.I was listening to the Gary Sharp podcast and one of the guys on there did a rewatch of the OSU game and he said that Dylan actually checked in to a lot of those screen pass plays. He didn't notice it in the live game but he noticed it on the rewatch.
If that's true, I can't see Rhule putting his QB on blast saying "actually we called different plays but our dumbass FR QB audibled into those screens." So Rhule is in a tough spot where he has to say dumb shit like 'they looked good/thought we had something there.' If I am Rhule I'd rather look dumb in front of the media than piss off my young QB by throwing him under the bus.
And he's not factually wrong - many of them did look good if our OL/WR could execute them. But they can't.
Even if those are being checked into, I have to assume that's still part of the offensive plan. It's predetermined that they check to those against certain looks. It's not Dylan out there going rogue calling the screens out of nowhereI was listening to the Gary Sharp podcast and one of the guys on there did a rewatch of the OSU game and he said that Dylan actually checked in to a lot of those screen pass plays. He didn't notice it in the live game but he noticed it on the rewatch.
If that's true, I can't see Rhule putting his QB on blast saying "actually we called different plays but our dumbass FR QB audibled into those screens." So Rhule is in a tough spot where he has to say dumb shit like 'they looked good/thought we had something there.' If I am Rhule I'd rather look dumb in front of the media than piss off my young QB by throwing him under the bus.
And he's not factually wrong - many of them did look good if our OL/WR could execute them. But they can't.
Yeah the OL is somehow skating through this discussion with no criticism. Ben Scott particularly has missed a lot of blocks on screen plays.I agree with not blasting the players even if it makes you look dumb. The players can be accountable to the coaching staff and each other in the locker or meeting rooms without public blasting.
Even if the "right" call/check, the execution has been sorely lacking. You note the OL-how many times have we seen the opposing DL stuff the screens-not only the middle screens at the line of scrimmage but also out wide after having what seems like a free run down the line to the receiver?
If that screen is the only check we have to get out of the situation it's little wonder the opposing defenses are all over it.
If that screen is the only check we have to get out of the situation it's little wonder the opposing defenses are all over it.
And to clarify, I'm just relaying the Hail Varsity guy's observation. I have not rewatched the game. I do remember Dylan checking down A LOT in the OSU game. So it's plausible he checked into some screen plays.Even if those are being checked into, I have to assume that's still pay off the offensive plan. It's predetermined that they check to those against certain looks. It's now Dylan out there going rogue calling the screens out of nowhere
If we don't throw the ball like Mike Leach Texas Tech on the shit trash UCLA pass defense, I'm team HaarbergAnd to clarify, I'm just relaying the Hail Varsity guy's observation. I have not rewatched the game. I do remember Dylan checking down A LOT in the OSU game. So it's plausible he checked into some screen plays.
The test will be to watch for it this week vs UCLA. If none of Dylan's checks result in screen plays then we'll know they would have removed that as an option.
I fear they might still try it though since we're at home and weather might be bad so it might be viewed as a higher % play (than a downfield 40 yd pass). Will be interesting. We'll all be watching for it. And Rhule is aware of that, which makes this stuff kind of fascinating. The fish bowl, etc.
You know more about UCLA than me LOL!If we don't throw the ball like Mike Leach Texas Tech on the shit trash UCLA pass defense, I'm team Haarberg
No interviews. Respect my decision
I agree, I'm much more concerned with the poor execution than I am with the play calling. Different plays with the same poor execution do not fix the offensive problems. Better execution and the current playcalling would be fine.People are talking way too much about Satterfield's play calling and not nearly enough about how sloppy the execution is
The fact that most os these plays look like we're running them for the first time is an even bigger indictment of Start as a coach
Perimeter block has been poor, by all position groups, OL, TE, WR, RB all of them.Yeah the OL is somehow skating through this discussion with no criticism. Ben Scott particularly has missed a lot of blocks on screen plays.
The WR stuff is more visible but the OL has had about the same number of errors on screen plays in total.
Just need to admit defeat on those and find new plays.
I just saw someone on this board posted that the UCLA offense is like 239th in pass DYou know more about UCLA than me LOL!
I know their head coach's name and that's about it. Can't name a single player. And only result I can say for sure without looking it up is they lost to Indianus at home big.
They are like the guy in GOT "a man has no name"....without the magical powers.