Screen Game - Rhule Presser

[Ext. 55]

Well there you go…we had to run it. Over, and over and over.

 

[dom91932]

The screen game "hasn't been terrible for us"???? Yikes...

 

[Herbie]

The screen game "hasn't been terrible for us"???? Yikes...

lol at standing up for calling screens when they haven’t worked at any point this season and gaslighting everyone to think it’s Ohio state specific

 

[Huskersballz]

From what I can tell the screens were fairly well schemed but our players absolutely suck at executing them. There were a few from Saturday that would’ve been large gains if we didn’t whiff on the blocks.

Ultimately on the coaching staff thought to know we can’t execute them even if they are looking juicy during game planning.

 

[tman87]

From what I can tell the screens were fairly well schemed but our players absolutely suck at executing them. There were a few from Saturday that would’ve been large gains if we didn’t whiff on the blocks.

Ultimately on the coaching staff thought to know we can’t execute them even if they are looking juicy during game planning.

Square peg, round hole. After seeing so much screen play failures ALL season.... just stop doing it so damn much. They don't work for us.

 

[Herbie]

Square peg, round hole. After seeing so much screen play failures ALL season.... just stop doing it so damn much. They don't work for us.

Yup. I get scheme wise they plays could work and there’s opportunity for big plays. He also doesn’t want to blame the players — fine.

But then quit putting them in situations to fail. That’s poor leadership, if you don’t have them ready to complete a task you don’t go forward with it.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

From what I can tell the screens were fairly well schemed but our players absolutely suck at executing them. There were a few from Saturday that would’ve been large gains if we didn’t whiff on the blocks.

Ultimately on the coaching staff thought to know we can’t execute them even if they are looking juicy during game planning.

People are talking way too much about Satterfield's play calling and not nearly enough about how sloppy the execution is

The fact that most os these plays look like we're running them for the first time is an even bigger indictment of Start as a coach

 

[Huskers4420]

The frustrating thing to me is this is exactly what South Carolina fans were saying when we hired him.

"Get ready to learn WR screen, buddy"

"RIP to your run game"

And I thought to myself it'll be different here because Rhule will obviously make him change something that isn't working. And as of now he's not.

 

[HerbRedman]

The screen game "hasn't been terrible for us"???? Yikes...

lol at standing up for calling screens when they haven’t worked at any point this season and gaslighting everyone to think it’s Ohio state specific

I was listening to the Gary Sharp podcast and one of the guys on there did a rewatch of the OSU game and he said that Dylan actually checked in to a lot of those screen pass plays. He didn't notice it in the live game but he noticed it on the rewatch.

If that's true, I can't see Rhule putting his QB on blast saying "actually we called different plays but our dumbass FR QB audibled into those screens." So Rhule is in a tough spot where he has to say dumb shit like 'they looked good/thought we had something there.' If I am Rhule I'd rather look dumb in front of the media than piss off my young QB by throwing him under the bus.

And he's not factually wrong - many of them did look good if our OL/WR could execute them. But they can't.

 

[Bootleg11]

The screens were schemed up well but poorly ran..

You could scheme up some triple option well but you wouldn't run it with a QB like Raiola.

Quit calling screens where #18 or #4 have to block. They are the worst perimeter blockers in the Big 10 and possibly in the Power 4 and constantly Nebraska tries to create 2 v 2 matchups where the receiver or ball carrier ends up in a 1 v 2 and gets murdered or they do get loose and it's automatically a hold or block in the back on either #18 or #4.

 

[dom91932]

I was listening to the Gary Sharp podcast and one of the guys on there did a rewatch of the OSU game and he said that Dylan actually checked in to a lot of those screen pass plays. He didn't notice it in the live game but he noticed it on the rewatch.

If that's true, I can't see Rhule putting his QB on blast saying "actually we called different plays but our dumbass FR QB audibled into those screens." So Rhule is in a tough spot where he has to say dumb shit like 'they looked good/thought we had something there.' If I am Rhule I'd rather look dumb in front of the media than piss off my young QB by throwing him under the bus.

And he's not factually wrong - many of them did look good if our OL/WR could execute them. But they can't.

I agree with not blasting the players even if it makes you look dumb. The players can be accountable to the coaching staff and each other in the locker or meeting rooms without public blasting.

Even if the "right" call/check, the execution has been sorely lacking. You note the OL-how many times have we seen the opposing DL stuff the screens-not only the middle screens at the line of scrimmage but also out wide after having what seems like a free run down the line to the receiver?

If that screen is the only check we have to get out of the situation it's little wonder the opposing defenses are all over it.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

I was listening to the Gary Sharp podcast and one of the guys on there did a rewatch of the OSU game and he said that Dylan actually checked in to a lot of those screen pass plays. He didn't notice it in the live game but he noticed it on the rewatch.

If that's true, I can't see Rhule putting his QB on blast saying "actually we called different plays but our dumbass FR QB audibled into those screens." So Rhule is in a tough spot where he has to say dumb shit like 'they looked good/thought we had something there.' If I am Rhule I'd rather look dumb in front of the media than piss off my young QB by throwing him under the bus.

And he's not factually wrong - many of them did look good if our OL/WR could execute them. But they can't.

Even if those are being checked into, I have to assume that's still part of the offensive plan. It's predetermined that they check to those against certain looks. It's not Dylan out there going rogue calling the screens out of nowhere

 

[HerbRedman]

I agree with not blasting the players even if it makes you look dumb. The players can be accountable to the coaching staff and each other in the locker or meeting rooms without public blasting.

Even if the "right" call/check, the execution has been sorely lacking. You note the OL-how many times have we seen the opposing DL stuff the screens-not only the middle screens at the line of scrimmage but also out wide after having what seems like a free run down the line to the receiver?

If that screen is the only check we have to get out of the situation it's little wonder the opposing defenses are all over it.

Yeah the OL is somehow skating through this discussion with no criticism. Ben Scott particularly has missed a lot of blocks on screen plays.

The WR stuff is more visible but the OL has had about the same number of errors on screen plays in total.

Just need to admit defeat on those and find new plays.

 

[HerbRedman]

If that screen is the only check we have to get out of the situation it's little wonder the opposing defenses are all over it.

Even if those are being checked into, I have to assume that's still pay off the offensive plan. It's predetermined that they check to those against certain looks. It's now Dylan out there going rogue calling the screens out of nowhere

And to clarify, I'm just relaying the Hail Varsity guy's observation. I have not rewatched the game. I do remember Dylan checking down A LOT in the OSU game. So it's plausible he checked into some screen plays.

The test will be to watch for it this week vs UCLAbia. If none of Dylan's checks result in screen plays then we'll know they would have removed that as an option.

I fear they might still try it though since we're at home and weather might be bad so it might be viewed as a higher % play (than a downfield 40 yd pass). Will be interesting. We'll all be watching for it. And Rhule is aware of that, which makes this stuff kind of fascinating. The fish bowl, etc.

 

[...TrueColors...]

1) I do believe some of the screen and bubble passes have been checks Raiola makes

2) I think defenses fool and bait him in this regard as they show him a look where the conventional wisdom would tell you that you should hit a screen and/or bubble and our freshman QB takes the bait.

Other teams know we cant block these.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

And to clarify, I'm just relaying the Hail Varsity guy's observation. I have not rewatched the game. I do remember Dylan checking down A LOT in the OSU game. So it's plausible he checked into some screen plays.

The test will be to watch for it this week vs UCLAbia. If none of Dylan's checks result in screen plays then we'll know they would have removed that as an option.

I fear they might still try it though since we're at home and weather might be bad so it might be viewed as a higher % play (than a downfield 40 yd pass). Will be interesting. We'll all be watching for it. And Rhule is aware of that, which makes this stuff kind of fascinating. The fish bowl, etc.

If we don't throw the ball like Mike Leach Texas Tech on the shit trash UCLAbia pass defense, I'm team Haarberg

No interviews. Respect my decision

 

[HerbRedman]

If we don't throw the ball like Mike Leach Texas Tech on the shit trash UCLAbia pass defense, I'm team Haarberg

No interviews. Respect my decision

You know more about UCLAbia than me LOL!

I know their head coach's name and that's about it. Can't name a single player. And only result I can say for sure without looking it up is they lost to Indianus at home big.

They are like the guy in GOT "a man has no name"....without the magical powers.

 

[Stan Raymond]

People are talking way too much about Satterfield's play calling and not nearly enough about how sloppy the execution is

The fact that most os these plays look like we're running them for the first time is an even bigger indictment of Start as a coach

I agree, I'm much more concerned with the poor execution than I am with the play calling. Different plays with the same poor execution do not fix the offensive problems. Better execution and the current playcalling would be fine.

 

[Stan Raymond]

Yeah the OL is somehow skating through this discussion with no criticism. Ben Scott particularly has missed a lot of blocks on screen plays.

The WR stuff is more visible but the OL has had about the same number of errors on screen plays in total.

Just need to admit defeat on those and find new plays.

Perimeter block has been poor, by all position groups, OL, TE, WR, RB all of them.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

You know more about UCLAbia than me LOL!

I know their head coach's name and that's about it. Can't name a single player. And only result I can say for sure without looking it up is they lost to Indianus at home big.

They are like the guy in GOT "a man has no name"....without the magical powers.

I just saw someone on this board posted that the UCLAbia offense is like 239th in pass D