OL Recruiting

[redzoner]

I don't think we have had consistent OL recruiting both talent and numbers wise since TO was coaching but it was especially bad under Frost.

These are the players Frost signed that at least made it to campus:

2018	Will Farniok	***
2019	Matthew Anderson	***
2019	Michael Lynn	***
2019	Bryce Benhardt	****
2019	Jimmy Fritzsche	***
2019	Brant Banks	***
2020	Turner Corcoran	****
2020	Alex Conn	***
2021	Teddy Prochazka	****
2021	Henry Lutovsky	***
2022	Zero Recruits

2019 is the only year with decent numbers and a lot of reaches. 2.2 recruits / year is not enough be build depth and account for busts across 5 starting positions on offense.

Here's Rhule's first 2 classes:

2023	Gunnar Gottula	****
2023	Sam Sledge	***
2023	Brock Knutson	***
2023	Mason Goldman	***
2023	Jason Maciejczak	***
2024	Gibson Pyle	***
2024	Jake Peters	***
2024	Landen Davidson	***
2024	Preston Taumua	****
2024	Grant Brix	****

If we sign no one else this year Rhule has already added 10 lineman in 2 years which is 1 less than Frost added over 5 years. (This isn't accounting for transfers, only HS recruits)

We still have to develop them but part of recruiting OL is purely a numbers game. You can't take 2 guys in multiple classes and hope for a 100% hit rate.

EDIT: I didn't include Cam Jurgens. I don't know if they actually considered him an OL when they brought him in.

 

[iruletheskool]

Frost taking 1-2 a year was pure idiocy

 

[dsbigred1]

Frost taking 1-2 a year was pure idiocy

Many, many things he did were beyond idiocy. He MIGHT be ready for another HC job in the future, but he was nowhere near ready for what it takes to win in the B1G.

 

[Tonkasker]

Frost taking 1-2 a year was pure idiocy

Disagree. If we took more we’d have had to pass on some of those WRs that transferred out

 

[HughJanus]

I don't think we have had consistent OL recruiting both talent and numbers wise since TO was coaching but it was especially bad under Frost.

These are the players Frost signed that at least made it to campus:

2018	Will Farniok	***
2019	Matthew Anderson	***
2019	Michael Lynn	***
2019	Bryce Benhardt	****
2019	Jimmy Fritzsche	***
2019	Brant Banks	***
2020	Turner Corcoran	****
2020	Alex Conn	***
2021	Teddy Prochazka	****
2021	Henry Lutovsky	***
2022	Zero Recruits

2019 is the only year with decent numbers and a lot of reaches. 2.2 recruits / year is not enough be build depth and account for busts across 5 starting positions on offense.

Here's Rhule's first 2 classes:

2023	Gunnar Gottula	****
2023	Sam Sledge	***
2023	Brock Knutson	***
2023	Mason Goldman	***
2023	Jason Maciejczak	***
2024	Gibson Pyle	***
2024	Jake Peters	***
2024	Landen Davidson	***
2024	Preston Taumua	****
2024	Grant Brix	****

If we sign no one else this year Rhule has already added 10 lineman in 2 years which is 1 less than Frost added over 5 years. (This isn't accounting for transfers, only HS recruits)

We still have to develop them but part of recruiting OL is purely a numbers game. You can't take 2 guys in multiple classes and hope for a 100% hit rate.

I only count 10 Frost recruits. The 2022 line says Zero Recruits.

 

[redzoner]

I only count 10 Frost recruits. The 2022 line says Zero Recruits.

Good point. Can't even count my own data.

So same amount of recruits in 5 years vs. 2.

 

[HughJanus]

Good point. Can't even count my own data.

So same amount of recruits in 5 years vs. 2.

That's truly remarkable. Thanks for pointing this out.

 

[nja13]

Good info. I guess this is what Rhule means by building from the inside out!
Numbers give you options and depth, which makes for a better football team.

 

[Lionsfan93]

That's simply mind blowing. I don't know how you can objectively look at signing 2 kids a class and think those numbers will work out. And,.if I'm not mistaken, I know Banks was listed at OL, but didn't we recruit him as a DL and then move him to OL?

The thing with Rhule too is that he is bringing in quality with the quantity. Sure, each class has a guy that is a bit of a head scratcher, but I also am SUPER high on at least 3 kids from each class - Guttula, Sledge and Knutson was a solid haul last year and I love Pyle, Taumua and Brix in this class.

 

[redzoner]

Just to compare this is what Riley brought in for 3 recruiting classes. Lot's of misses but he recruited the same amount of OL as Frost in 2 less recruiting classes.

So to get 10 OL recruits it took Rhule 2 years, Riley 3 years, and Frost 5 years.

2015	Jalin Barnett	****
2015	Michael Decker	***
2015	Christian Gaylord	***
2016	Boe Wilson	***
2016	John Raridon	****
2016	Bryan Brokop	***
2017	Chris Walker	**
2017	Broc Bando	***
2017	Matt Sichterman	***
2017	Brenden Jameis	***

 

[nja13]

Just to compare this is what Riley brought in for 3 recruiting classes. Lot's of misses but he recruited the same amount of OL as Frost in 2 less recruiting classes.

So to get 10 OL recruits it took Rhule 2 years, Riley 3 years, and Frost 5 years.

2015	Jalin Barnett	****
2015	Michael Decker	***
2015	Christian Gaylord	***
2016	Boe Wilson	***
2016	John Raridon	****
2016	Bryan Brokop	***
2017	Chris Walker	**
2017	Broc Bando	***
2017	Matt Sichterman	***
2017	Brenden Jameis	***

And the two highest rated guys were the two bigest flops!

 

[Stan Raymond]

There is a lot to OL success just related to number signed. Injuries and busts happen and you have to bring in a lot to end up with 5 good OL playing.

 

[turek420845]

Frost taking 1-2 a year was pure idiocy

But they were going to have to adjust to us.

 

[Blakejc]

Maybe I misunderstood, but it sounded like Rhule called Mason Goldman a DL today in his presser.

 

[Tezzer]

Maybe I misunderstood, but it sounded like Rhule called Mason Goldman a DL today in his presser.

I thought the same thing.

 

[nja13]

But they were going to have to adjust to us.

...aaaaaaaand they did.

 

[vailhusker]

Maybe I misunderstood, but it sounded like Rhule called Mason Goldman a DL today in his presser.

I thought they moved him over awhile back. Just from his tweets looks like he's on the DL.

Mr Majestic was over there too but moved back to the OL recently along with Ruquan Buckley I believe.