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How attractive is the Nebraska job? (The Athletic)

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From Stewart Mandel's weekly mailbag:

Hey Stewart. It seems that Nebraska is going to be looking for a new coach very soon. How attractive is the Nebraska job to people now? I know it's not great, but how bad can it be? I know Matt Campbell isn't coming here, but would a Gary Patterson pick up the phone? Dave Aranda? Hell, even Lance Leipold? Beyond the Big 12, I'm sure Luke #2ndChoice won't pick us, but would a Jim Leonhard or Justin Wilcox consider us? -- Ari S. (Lincoln, NE)

Mandel:
Ari, I know that was a rough loss the other day, but why such a defeatist attitude? The Nebraska job may not be what it was in 1995, but c'mon man. You're a Big Ten school with ample resources and a rabid fan base that's sold out every football game since 1962!* (* Not sure this week's should really count?) Scott Frost makes $5 million a year, and with the expected windfall from the Big Ten's next TV contract in a couple of years, Nebraska can probably afford to pay the next guy even more. People (including most of those you just mentioned) are going to want that job.

The mistake I made in believing Frost would win big there: I thought his Oregon-style offense would give the Huskers an advantage in the mostly stodgy Big Ten West. But you need speed at the skill positions to make it work, and he's mostly struck out trying to get those guys to come to the Heartland. (Wan'Dale Robinson was a notable exception, but he transferred.) If Frost could have a mulligan, I bet he would have taken the Florida job instead. He could walk down the street and run into 10 of those guys.

So I've changed my tune. Nebraska needs to find its own Kirk Ferentz, Matt Campbell or Pat Fitzgerald. Someone who knows how to build a culture and find guys who fit it, evaluate, develop and be consistent. Style and star rankings need not matter. Campbell would be the absolute home run. Two months ago, I would have completely dismissed that possibility, but with the Big 12 now in limbo, might he be more tempted than before by a stable Big Ten program? If nothing else, I have an easier time picturing Campbell in Lincoln than in Los Angeles.

If that's unrealistic, though, there will be other options. New AD Turd Alberts needs to avoid getting caught up in trying to hire a big name or someone with connections to Nebraska and concentrate on fit and vision. Leonhard strikes me as a great fit, but obviously he's completely unproven as a head coach. Leipold is a proven program builder, but would he bolt from Kansas after one season? I'd even look at the FCS level, much like Kansas State did when it hired Chris Klieman. Southern Illinois' Nick Hill made Bruce Feldman's list of 43 coaches to watch this coming carousel.

Whoever the coach, Nebraska is not going to return to its 1990s-era dominance. But that's not the goal. Its model should be Wisconsin. That program has a distinct identity and has been winning at a high level for 30 years, and yet that school has no inherent advantages over Nebraska. It's got no natural recruiting footprint either. Same goes for basically the entire Big Ten West. Nebraska should be regularly winning Big Ten West titles, not losing back-to-back years to Illinois.
 
I don’t know why people think it’s a bad job. Pays top of the market now that TO isn’t the AD, great fan support, easy path to division titles, great resources….. recruiting is tougher than in some places, but it’s not like we are firing coaches who don’t win titles - Pelini got 7 years and didn’t win anything more than a Whale trophy…. I bet people are interested
 
I don’t know why people think it’s a bad job. Pays top of the market now that TO isn’t the AD, great fan support, easy path to division titles, great resources….. recruiting is tougher than in some places, but it’s not like we are firing coaches who don’t win titles - Pelini got 7 years and didn’t win anything more than a Whale trophy…. I bet people are interested
They think it's a bad job because Stevie P fired Solich a year too late
 
I don’t know why people think it’s a bad job. Pays top of the market now that TO isn’t the AD, great fan support, easy path to division titles, great resources….. recruiting is tougher than in some places, but it’s not like we are firing coaches who don’t win titles - Pelini got 7 years and didn’t win anything more than a Whale trophy…. I bet people are interested
Consistently bad coaching hires make it look like a bad job
 
I feel like there are two levels with the job itself:

1. Top of the market pay, great fan support, amazing history, weak division in powerful conference, the idea that some simple fixes and improvements could turn you into a beloved legend for a starving fanbase, etc.

2. Our all-important fan support is dwindling and might crater after this season, with every passing year our amazing history fades from memory and relevance (at this point even the parents of recruits think it was a long time ago), more recent headlines are full of embarrassments and fishbowl antics and low-rent backstabbing and an unhealthy culture extending through multiple ADs/coaches, recruiting has always been difficult but it's more of an uphill battle than ever due to all of those factors + everything else that has changed over the past 20 years.

None of that means we should fold the program, but I DO think it means we are gonna be way off the radar of a majority of top notch coaches who would get people super hyped. I think we're going to need a diamond in the rough unfortunately.
 
It’s a top-15 job

Its a blue blood program.

Jobs above Nebraska:
Florida
Miami
FSU
Alabama
Texas
Oklahoma
Clemson
LSU
TAMU
USC
Oregon
Notre Dame
Ohio State

Borderline:
North Carolina
Tennessee
Michigan
Wisconsin
Washington
 
This and I think the media circus saying how good this team looks in every fall camp and pumping kool-aid into the the crazy fans butts every offseason will turn some people away but theres plenty good coaches that would take this job
Same thing goes for the “insiders” on message boards, some who seem to be absent now.
 
This and I think the media circus saying how good this team looks in every fall camp and pumping kool-aid into the the crazy fans butts every offseason will turn some people away but theres plenty good coaches that would take this job
Man, I am so tired of this narrative of blaming it on the media. Anyone who has watched this team for the last three years knew what was going to happen. And let me let you in on a little secret, these reporters get access to 30 minutes of stretching and walk throughs and that's it. They don't actually see anything of consequence. Their job is to report on what the coaches and players are saying. Turns out a team who is 12-20 after three years may not actually know what "good football" looks like internally.

You shouldn't have too hard of a time finding someone to coach a school that pays $5 million/year, but this isn't the team Frank Solich or Bo Pelini handed over. Hell it isn't even the team Bill Callahan handed over. You are looking at a school that is 31-40 since Mike Riley took over. Not like we are on the verge of breaking through. It is still a rebuild for any coach that comes after Frost.
 
According to the 2021 247 talent composite, Nebraska is the 25th most talented team in the country. The new coach won't be inheriting a bare cupboard.

Talented team, great fanbase, brand new facilities, good pay. This is a good job and we should be able to attract some good coaches.

This job should also be attractive to someone like Bill O'Brien who failed at his last job and needs a new start.
 
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Honestly, Bill O'Brien would be a fantastic hire. Not sure how long he'd be here, but he'd be a good hire.
It’s hard to tell. He didn’t stay at PSU long enough to give you a good feel one way or another.
 
It’s hard to tell. He didn’t stay at PSU long enough to give you a good feel one way or another.
It will kind of depend on how he does with Alabama this year. And if he is willing to stay with a school as a HC for more than a couple of seasons.
 
It’s hard to tell. He didn’t stay at PSU long enough to give you a good feel one way or another.
Hell if he can turn us around enough so he gets an even better job, I'll settle for that. I'd be pissed at him for awhile, but at least it probably means he did something good here.
 
Hell if he can turn us around enough so he gets an even better job, I'll settle for that. I'd be pissed at him for awhile, but at least it probably means he did something good here.
I think there are better candidates but we know he is better then Frost. He would make some bowl games.
 
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