Irv said:

Many of us seem to be assuming the fact that 2025 was an incremental improvement over 2024. But was it really?

NU had six losses in 2024.

2 were to playoff teams. The other 4 were competitive games.

We only suffered one blowout loss - to playoff-bound Indiana.

We played the national champions on the road about as closely as any team they played that was not Michigan (21-17 loss).

Best win was a manhandling of CU, who finished the regular season ranked at 9-3.


2025 we had 5 losses.

Absent a Michigan win tomorrow, none of those are playoff teams.

We were blown out 3 times including by a mediocre Minnesota team and with 2 of those to end the season.

The best win was 7-4 Cincinnati, week zero.


You can grade on a curve a little for TJ, but the schedule (as indicated above) was also quite a bit easier.

I don’t think it’s a lock to say this team is better than last year’s, which I think is a problem if you are trying to buy into Rhule’s vision of how he is going to build this.

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Irv said:

Many of us seem to be assuming the fact that 2025 was an incremental improvement over 2024. But was it really?

NU had six losses in 2024.

2 were to playoff teams. The other 4 were competitive games.

We only suffered one blowout loss - to playoff-bound Indiana.

We played the national champions on the road about as closely as any team they played that was not Michigan (21-17 loss).

Best win was a manhandling of CU, who finished the regular season ranked at 9-3.


2025 we had 5 losses.

Absent a Michigan win tomorrow, none of those are playoff teams.

We were blown out 3 times including by a mediocre Minnesota team and with 2 of those to end the season.

The best win was 7-4 Cincinnati, week zero.


You can grade on a curve a little for TJ, but the schedule (as indicated above) was also quite a bit easier.

I don’t think it’s a lock to say this team is better than last year’s, which I think is a problem if you are trying to buy into Rhule’s vision of how he is going to build this.

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Irv said:

Many of us seem to be assuming the fact that 2025 was an incremental improvement over 2024. But was it really?

NU had six losses in 2024.

2 were to playoff teams. The other 4 were competitive games.

We only suffered one blowout loss - to playoff-bound Indiana.

We played the national champions on the road about as closely as any team they played that was not Michigan (21-17 loss).

Best win was a manhandling of CU, who finished the regular season ranked at 9-3.


2025 we had 5 losses.

Absent a Michigan win tomorrow, none of those are playoff teams.

We were blown out 3 times including by a mediocre Minnesota team and with 2 of those to end the season.

The best win was 7-4 Cincinnati, week zero.


You can grade on a curve a little for TJ, but the schedule (as indicated above) was also quite a bit easier.

I don’t think it’s a lock to say this team is better than last year’s, which I think is a problem if you are trying to buy into Rhule’s vision of how he is going to build this.

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