So… Where do we go from here?

gtlacey · 2025-11-25T13:42:36-0600

HerbRedman said:
I think Rhule is the ultimate media guy and sometimes you have to call it like you see it. Like the Minnesota game. They probably didn't say anything that Rhule wasn't saying himself.

I think as long as you don't step over into cheap shot territory then Rhule is gonna be fine with you.

Which is different than some coaches (like a Mike Gundy) who would flip out over very fair critiques. I think if it's fair and not personal -- and accurate -- then Rhule is going to be good with it.

Rhule doesn't even seem to be mad about the whole Carolina situation. He seems to understand he didn't do well enough to be the head coach there.

Ext. 55 · 2025-11-25T13:43:06-0600

HerbRedman said:
Not making excuses for him but I do think the discourse has changed due to all the $$$ involved with the players now. I don't think the coaches feel they need to white knight for their players when the players are in some cases making $1m/yr.

So i think the scribes have changed their approach too. They make WAY less than the 21 yr olds they cover. The 21 yr old might make 20x-40x what the beat reporter is making. So I think some of them are like Fuck It, I'm calling this player out. And I think it's fair.

I think comparing what these guys said during Bill Callahan or Bo Pelini era is kind of useless. It's a different world now.

I think that is a reasonable and fair take...and I don't think I will get over their simping approach with Frost anytime soon. The approaches are polar opposite.

Irv · 2025-11-25T13:46:53-0600

Ext. 55 said:
I think that is a reasonable and fair take...and I don't think I will get over their simping approach with Frost anytime soon. The approaches are polar opposite.

What ultimately gets me is that these guys were happy to actively encourage the program to continue down a death spiral, so long as Frost was in charge of the dying.

Ext. 55 · 2025-11-25T14:16:43-0600

Irv said:
What ultimately gets me is that these guys were happy to actively encourage the program to continue down a death spiral, so long as Frost was in charge of the dying.

Yeah, exactly. While I rooted hard for Frost to be successful, I never liked the hire. He was just to big to fail, given his history with NU.

The way the media was just over the top as we've discussed. Double standard these days. Like you said, can't trust them to be unbiased.

Kaladin · 2025-11-25T15:44:58-0600

gtlacey said:
Rhule doesn't even seem to be mad about the whole Carolina situation. He seems to understand he didn't do well enough to be the head coach there.

I wouldn’t want that owner as my boss either

V-Doub · 2025-11-25T17:24:53-0600

Ext. 55 said:
Yeah, exactly. While I rooted hard for Frost to be successful, I never liked the hire. He was just to big to fail, given his history with NU.

The way the media was just over the top as we've discussed. Double standard these days. Like you said, can't trust them to be unbiased.

I loved the frost hire for one year. I liked it after 2 years. Was after out after year 3. When you see zero improvement through 3 full years, some might argue regression, why would you believe year 4 or 5 would be better? But yet the admin/coaches gaslighted and made excuses, the media took their ques and amplified the gaslighting and frankly… many fans gaslighted themselves by refusing to believe the “golden boy” was a fraud and in way over his head.

Can you imagine what it would’ve been like if Frost took us to 2 bowl games in his 1st 3 seasons? That being said, Dean’s face tattoo of Scrote’s cock would’ve been epic.

Ext. 55 · 2025-11-25T18:50:16-0600

V-Doub said:
I loved the frost hire for one year. I liked it after 2 years. Was after out after year 3. When you see zero improvement through 3 full years, some might argue regression, why would you believe year 4 or 5 would be better? But yet the admin/coaches gaslighted and made excuses, the media took their ques and amplified the gaslighting and frankly… many fans gaslighted themselves by refusing to believe the “golden boy” was a fraud and in way over his head.

Can you imagine what it would’ve been like if Frost took us to 2 bowl games in his 1st 3 seasons? That being said, Dean’s face tattoo of Scrote’s cock would’ve been epic.

If Frost has done exactly what Rhule has done, the media would be spinning his knob every Wednesday after the presser…

nscottie · 2025-11-25T19:36:01-0600

If I was Rhule I wouldn’t answer any questions from Sip and Dean at pressers. Screw them

king_kong_ · 2025-11-25T20:50:55-0600

nscottie said:
If I was Rhule I wouldn’t answer any questions from Sip and Dean at pressers. Screw them

Gotta love the propaganda chugging fans who believe the media exist solely to be a mouthpiece for the program

HCFord1 · 2025-11-25T20:55:25-0600

king_kong_ said:
Gotta love the propaganda chugging fans who believe the media exist solely to be a mouthpiece for the program

I’m sure the irony of this post is lost on you

king_kong_ · 2025-11-25T21:10:50-0600

HCFord1 said:
I’m sure the irony of this post is lost on you

Sip & dean are indeed propaganda artists

Our media are lapdogs

Part of what makes this job the cushiest in all of college football

Infinite resources, infinite excuses, no pressure, no expectations, not so much as a single tough question

HCFord1 · 2025-11-25T21:28:05-0600

king_kong_ said:
Sip & dean are indeed propaganda artists

Our media are lapdogs

Part of what makes this job the cushiest in all of college football

Infinite resources, infinite excuses, no pressure, no expectations, not so much as a single tough question

So what was the point of your previous post?

wildcat_husker · 2025-11-25T21:35:52-0600

king_kong_ said:
Infinite resources, infinite excuses, no pressure, no expectations, not so much as a single tough question

This is why everyone thinks you’re a retard because this couldn’t be further from the truth.

This isn’t constructive discussion or fair criticism (your words) in any way.

king_kong_ · 2025-11-25T21:40:32-0600

wildcat_husker said:
This is why everyone thinks you’re a retard because this couldn’t be further from the truth.

This isn’t constructive discussion or fair criticism (your words) in any way.

We have extended 2 straight coaches who have never so much as gone 5-4 in conference play.

You think we have high expectations here in 2025? We sure don’t act like it.

wildcat_husker · 2025-11-25T21:54:20-0600

king_kong_ said:
We have extended 2 straight coaches who have never so much as gone 5-4 in conference play.

You think we have high expectations here in 2025? We sure don’t act like it.

We fired Frost early in his 5th year. He should’ve been fired sooner. He didn’t because he was an alumni. No argument there.

Rhule took us to a bowl game in his second year after not making a bowl game in 8 years — the longest streak in the nation. Should he have been extended mid 3rd year? Maybe not but that’s pretty standard in the coaching market.

Many of us recognize some progress, while still being able to criticize him. I’m not okay with winning 7 games in year 3. But as we’ve seen, there isn’t a perfect formula to this. There aren’t sure-thing hires. We hired a process/developmental coach when massive changes to college football were happening. So, I’ll be patient.

It’s dumb to say there’s not pressure. It’s a pressure cooker at Nebraska, like many other big football programs. For awhile there, we had paid more in buyout money than any other school.

king_kong_ · 2025-11-25T22:06:24-0600

wildcat_husker said:
For awhile there, we had paid more in buyout money than any other school.

Yep.

Back when there was pressure to win.

Now it’s just smile and wave and aw shucks.

Our current OL is indistinguishable from Frost’s. Hell, 60% of it are somehow still Frost’s guys.

Go down the list. You have to squint real hard to see the difference between this team and those we’ve fielded the last 8 years.

tman87 · 2025-11-25T23:28:48-0600

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