I believe they said later that the ref said it was reviewed. Which is unbelievable to miss on replay

Pelini was bad. Yes. And most of the first half of his time at Cockeye, Kirk was worse.

Eh. He's actually been pretty freaking solid the past 11 years... 97-43 isn't awful. Average of basically 9 wins a year (taking out 2020, 6-2) with some 12 win seasons in there. They were definitely 2 close losses from a playoff this year. But this goes back to the general question of what...

Just the counter point to your AI post. Sometimes after .500 it could get better. It probably won't but it could. But the reality is almost every coaching hire ever has a less than 20% chance of working out long term. Maybe less than 10%.

Who would represent the Big 12 in the playoff if BYU loses besides TT? Utah? Maybe...maybe not... Anyone else? Probably a one bid league.

You're smarter than that aren't you? Where you started matters. Hey coach having a .500 3-year stretch 8-12 years into his tenure is WAY different than when you took over a program in the dumpster. And the third example didn't get better in year four. We absolutely would have fired him after...

Honestly if you follow Facebook groups (I try not to) it was still a really really large contingent of fans that wanted to keep him at the end. Mind bottling. People vastly underestimate how long it would take for the non-obsessive fans to want to fire a guy.

Obviously he needs to do more next year. But just to be clear, we would probably fire Kirk several times over his tenure. Possibly after 01, probably after 07, probably after 14... And probably after his racism scandal.

Disagree on Mcollough and Key I get because he was pretty freaking effective before Nebraska. Really surprising how ineffective he was here

See above

The first 3 years: 11-24 worse 05-07: 19-18 (coming off a 31-7 stretch) is worse considering starting point 10-12: Again, coming off a good couple years makes 19-19 really bad Since we're talking about .500 coaching then doing well, it's pretty easy to argue how Ferentz has done that multiple...

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I think after he loses to the kitties today he might be really hard to find

He had me fooled. Well done

Dang that does suck. He might not have been a front line starter but he was definitely a valuable bench piece